They just got a different tool to use than we do: They kill innocent lives to achieve objectives. That's what they do. And they're good. They get on the TV screens and they get people to ask questions about, well, you know, this, that or the other. I mean, they're able to kind of say to people: Don't come and bother us, because we will kill you. Bush - Joint News Conference with Blair - 28 July '06

Monday, October 17, 2005

Iraq: How many does it take to plant a roadside bomb?

Looks like a minimum of 20 ...

thestar/reuters:
U.S. forces killed an estimated 70 militants near the western Iraqi city of Ramadi in a series of clashes on Sunday, a military statement said on Monday.

The statement said U.S. troops called in aircraft to bomb one group of suspected insurgents who were in the process of planting a roadside bomb, killing 20 men on the ground. Other clashes and airstrikes around Ramadi, an insurgent stronghold in western Anbar province, killed another 50 militants, the statement said. Link

whotv/ap: There are conflicting reports on the identities of 70 Iraqis killed in the U-S bombing of two villages near the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi.
The U-S military says all the victims were militants. Witnesses say at least 39 of the people killed were civilians.

The violence yesterday came a day after Iraq voted on a constitution that many Sunnis oppose.

On referendum day, a roadside bomb killed five U-S soldiers in a vehicle outside Ramadi. The military and witnesses agree that about 24 Iraqis gathered around the wreckage and were hit by the U-S airstrikes.

The military says the group was setting more explosives, while local people say the Iraqis had gathered to view or scavenge the site.

The other deaths occurred in a nearby village. The military says its forces were returning fire and, again, there is conflicting information as to whether the group included civilians. Read more

Update: 11.00 am - BBC Worldservice is reporting that they are receiving information that the 20+ dead 'bomb planters' were merely 'scavenging'/observing the scene. They point out that they are unable to confirm the reports 'independently' - which is typical arse-covering in the face of what is probably a number of compelling accounts that contradict the US military line.